Question: Who wants to be named here? Have you put your own name up on the wiki when you got a flyout? When you got an offer? Accepted offer? Have you asked others to put your name up, or to keep your name off?
Who wants to be named here?
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I put up my name a few years back on the wiki after I accepted the offer.
I don't think the names for the flyouts are all that important for anything other than being nosy. Knowing they're doing flyouts, and you aren't one of them, should be enough until the accepted offer is posted. If a department is knee-deep in flyouts, and you don't have one, then let it go.
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im doing awful on the market this year, but were i to ever get a job i would post my name as soon as i sign in order to inform others who interviewed and are waiting to hear. despite the flaws of this place its nice to be able to see when searches have concluded given how slow some univ can be sending rejection letters- when they even send them at all. last year i did a campus interview at a place then never heard from them again. it was only due to sjmr that i was able to find out what happened. if i can ever pay that forward i will.
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This year was better, but last year the minute names went up people were starting threads to bitch about "Why did X get a flyout, she only has two pubs, so weak, blah, blah blah." Which of course reeked of OP being an applicant who didn't get a fly out. After that I'll never post another name here. I'll fill in "Phone Interviews Scheduled", "Flyouts Invited", "Offer Accepted" so people know the status of my department's lines, but no names.
On a fun random fact we have a prof who took screenshots of some of the 2014 nastiness and when they were leading a search committee sent out a department wide email with those featured to encourage our grad students not to post names.
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This thread has been illuminating for me. It seems like many people are on board with posting their name, or having someone else post it, once they get the job. Then there's a couple people who are against posting any names at all because of the jealous-hater thing.
But no one so far as admitted to wanting their name posted once they got a flyout, or even an offer. I suspected at least one person would at least do the usual SJMR bit ("information wants to be free, and I support that!"), even if they had to lie about wanting it for themselves. But no one has even done that yet.
It sounds like until the job is accepted, people are pretty much always putting up names against the will of the people involved. I don't know exactly what that means yet.
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On a fun random fact we have a prof who took screenshots of some of the 2014 nastiness and when they were leading a search committee sent out a department wide email with those featured to encourage our grad students not to post names.
tell your prof to get off SJMR
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I've posted status updates (interviews scheduled, campus visits concluded) for searches I'm involved with as a candidate, for the same reasons as others here: I appreciate when I know if a search has moved on, and I'd like to offer others the same courtesy.
But it seems crappy to name people before offers are made. What are the upsides to candidates? If I learn the name of someone else who I'm competing against, I'll feel the need to check them and their work out - which sucks, because I know I just need to focus on my own work and do the best job I can (rather than worrying about my competition). If my name goes up and there's any sort of discussion about me, it might limit my ability to control my self-presentation to the committee (what if somebody mentions my family situation, talks trash about my next project, etc.?). Posting names of candidates before offers are made seems primarily to serve non-candidates: by providing entertainment, letting them make pronouncements about the state of the job market, or, at best, helping them see the names and CVs of people who get a lot of job market interest. The latter of these, at least, could still be achieved by posting names after offers are made - after all, do you want to learn how to be a JMC who gets a lot of Skype interviews? Or a JMC who gets one or more offers?
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Yes, the snarkiness does weigh against posting names.
Also whoever thinks info should be free apparently doesn't know how to calculate the expected value of perfect information. If the publishing monopolists have taught me anything, it's that information wants to be monetized.