You seem to be assuming too much for someone so concerned about logics.
That's a bit of a stretch, isn't it? I mean, there is nothing in the post about that person in particular. If anything, you seem to be reading too much into this.
Taking the posts out of context deprives them of meaning. Obviously we?re talking about the tweeter. Otherwise it?s a total non sequitur..
Hey, how about dem Os!
I’ve adjuncted at more than one CUNY campus. And, most semesters involved a class discussion where students revealed important parts of their socio-economic status.
False: “She's a Puerto Rican woman from a low-income family who went to one of the CUNY colleges undergrad. She absolutely does not come from wealthy parents or anything remotely like that kind of privilege.”
She might not come from a wealthy family. She probably doesn’t come from a wealthy family. But, you cannot say she “absolutely does not come from wealthy parents or anything remotely like that kind of privilege.” I’ve had a handful of wealthy students.
False:
“I think undergrad at CUNY is still evidence of a lower middle class/poor background. Partially because it's cheaper and partially because it captures people that can or need to live with their families during college.”
On average CUNY students are lower-middle class/poor for the reasons mentioned and additional reasons. But, going to CUNY isn’t evidence of being lower middle class/poor. I’ve had a handful of wealthy students.
True?/False?
“If you read it carefully you will notice the argument is that CUNY is still a sign of lower income.”
Depends on what the author meant by “sign.”
True
“there are strong underlying motivations for people with lower income background to attend CUNY. And, that seems to work since a substantial chunk of the students there do come from this background.”
The data supports this.
True
“There are actual data available on this.”
See above.
Lastly, but not to be a d*ck, this is a weak argument.
“Btw, keep in mind that I've lectured at CUNY's Queens college for a couple of years. Not that it matters, since I seem to be making a logical mistake.”
Teaching at Queens College and knowing the demographics of your students aren’t the same thing. I’ve taught at Queens Coll
Do people not understand that one can't just negotiate without any bargaining power? If you bluff, and they call it, that was the risk you took. I was told never bluff unless you are prepared to walk away. I guess she is, but complaining about it is a bad look, in my opinion. The fact she would air that publicly, would make me hesitate to want to hire her.
Some people get multiple offers and they can play those against each other, but if you have one, and the school is low on money (many of us are taking pay cuts now), comparing yourself with other people who may have had quite a different situation isn't wise.
and, how in the world does she know what they were offered? Public salary info shows total compensation not base salary.
How does she know they haven't recently gotten pay cuts so this year they're going to make the same amount that she was offered? How does she know they didn't start at the same salary as she was offered and then get raises? Is she sure she has the same qualifications that they had at the time? Etc.
Do people not understand that one can't just negotiate without any bargaining power? If you bluff, and they call it, that was the risk you took. I was told never bluff unless you are prepared to walk away. I guess she is, but complaining about it is a bad look, in my opinion. The fact she would air that publicly, would make me hesitate to want to hire her.
Some people get multiple offers and they can play those against each other, but if you have one, and the school is low on money (many of us are taking pay cuts now), comparing yourself with other people who may have had quite a different situation isn't wise.
and, how in the world does she know what they were offered? Public salary info shows total compensation not base salary.