But this person is making it seem like they are doing it because they were marginalized?
https://twitter.com/jcaroccio/status/1274711910605377537?s=21
Seems like a lot of privilege to turn down a TT job
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But this person is making it seem like they are doing it because they were marginalized?
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Depends on a lot of factors. I regret taking my job based on the low pay and no moving expenses to go clear across the country to a far more expensive state. It was a massive financial hit, even accounting for the salary increase post grad school. I should have taken the post doc.
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But this person apparently had no other offers. So they must have enough money or a spouse to help them. That’s immense privilege.
Depends on a lot of factors. I regret taking my job based on the low pay and no moving expenses to go clear across the country to a far more expensive state. It was a massive financial hit, even accounting for the salary increase post grad school. I should have taken the post doc.
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Also a lot of privilege to get offered any TT job when your only publication is a forthcoming chapter in a Routledge edited collection.
It’s time this forum woke up to changing standards. This happens. I met someone interviewing at a mid ranked school with zero pubs. Declined and got a job at a very high ranked school. I got hired with a poor publication record. Our R1 nearly hired someone who hadn’t published in like eight years.
Pubs are a big deal. Not the end all be all.
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But this person apparently had no other offers. So they must have enough money or a spouse to help them. That�s immense privilege.
Depends on a lot of factors. I regret taking my job based on the low pay and no moving expenses to go clear across the country to a far more expensive state. It was a massive financial hit, even accounting for the salary increase post grad school. I should have taken the post doc.You’re still making a leap there. Taking low paying job could still put people into immense debt with no way to make it up. In that case, staying put without enough money, but not accumulating as much debt, is still the preferable option. That’s not privilege.
Sure, it’s possible she’s banking as an adjunct. Unlikely. It’s possible she’s got wealthy parents or a wealthy partner. But there are plenty of possibilities.
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Maybe. I guess it just seems like it is framed weirdly during a pandemic when so many people are out of work.
But this person apparently had no other offers. So they must have enough money or a spouse to help them. That?s immense privilege.
Depends on a lot of factors. I regret taking my job based on the low pay and no moving expenses to go clear across the country to a far more expensive state. It was a massive financial hit, even accounting for the salary increase post grad school. I should have taken the post doc.
You�re still making a leap there. Taking low paying job could still put people into immense debt with no way to make it up. In that case, staying put without enough money, but not accumulating as much debt, is still the preferable option. That�s not privilege.
Sure, it�s possible she�s banking as an adjunct. Unlikely. It�s possible she�s got wealthy parents or a wealthy partner. But there are plenty of possibilities. -
But this person is making it seem like they are doing it because they were marginalized?
https://twitter.com/jcaroccio/status/1274711910605377537?s=21She’s a compleat maroon to turn that down, especially for that reason. But with the Spanish name, she’ll get another offer.
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Also a lot of privilege to get offered any TT job when your only publication is a forthcoming chapter in a Routledge edited collection.
It�s time this forum woke up to changing standards. This happens. I met someone interviewing at a mid ranked school with zero pubs. Declined and got a job at a very high ranked school. I got hired with a poor publication record. Our R1 nearly hired someone who hadn�t published in like eight years.
Pubs are a big deal. Not the end all be all.She's in American Studies. Their pub expectations are completely different, and book-focused.
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She knows she will get a better job given that many white academics would relinquish their white guilt by hiring her, and feel they are very multicultural as a result. She knows. Clever move. Rather than taking a bad job in God knows where, she stays -I guess- in NYC and waits for another better job...
She knows; She would not turn down for no reason.
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she doesn't seem to put the offer in context. With Covid-19, universities are cutting costs. This might be a reflection of a fiscally constrained university and not some sort of disrespect. With the pandemic recovery, which might last years, this might prove to be a really unwise decision.
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Also a lot of privilege to get offered any TT job when your only publication is a forthcoming chapter in a Routledge edited collection.
It�s time this forum woke up to changing standards. This happens. I met someone interviewing at a mid ranked school with zero pubs. Declined and got a job at a very high ranked school. I got hired with a poor publication record. Our R1 nearly hired someone who hadn�t published in like eight years.
Pubs are a big deal. Not the end all be all.Given the competition for jobs, the changing standards are in the other direction. Publications are a bigger deal now they they have ever been. Unless you check the right demographic boxes.
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she doesn't seem to put the offer in context. With Covid-19, universities are cutting costs. This might be a reflection of a fiscally constrained university and not some sort of disrespect. With the pandemic recovery, which might last years, this might prove to be a really unwise decision.
I feel like if it truly were that, they would've been able to convey that to her. The fact that the negotiation went so far south suggests that they didn't take seriously enough how harmful it is to hire POC at a lower pay scale than whites.
She acknowledges in the thread that she is lucky to be able to afford to turn this one down (I assume she has a well-employed partner), so I don't know why people are dragging her. Good for her for knowing what would make a job intolerable for her.