Are there any historical precedents for such a small country commandeering a global superpower empire in the way Israel dominates America?
Palestinians face expulsions as Biden swears allegiance to Israel
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Saudi Arabia has ten times the amount of influence on American policy than Israel does - they also despise the Palestinians as well.
How do you quantify this?
By what measure do you say SA has more influence?
Compare and contrast rhetoric on these two countries by leading US officials.
Has a US president ever said he would make Israel an international "pariah"?Conflating criticism of Israel and its influence with "anti-semitism" is asinine. You're the person who says this site is "racist" right? I bet you called Ilhan Omar an "anti-semite" for talking about AIPAC, right?
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Compare and contrast the attention and outrage at SA's murder of Khashoggi with the media blackout on coverage of Israel's borderline routine murder of US citizens which rarely even draws diplomatic complaint from the US.
Saudi Arabia is a client state of the US.
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this is what a "media blackout" looks like
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/24/israel-un-shireen-american-journalist/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/04/shireen-abu-akleh-bullet-israel/
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/us-shot-killed-journalist-fired-israelis-86182363
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this is what a "media blackout" looks like
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/24/israel-un-shireen-american-journalist/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/04/shireen-abu-akleh-bullet-israel/
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/us-shot-killed-journalist-fired-israelis-86182363
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i mean, YOU KNOW it's being censored when US state media covers it
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/04/1109683789/shireen-abu-akleh-death-investigation
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msndnc praising biden for calling saudi arabia a pariah might have gotten your argument across the finish line before his most recent trip
This makes the point entirely. The fact that SA was attacked by the US president with this language alone shows it's completely psychotic to claim that SA has more influence over the US than Israel does. Biden backtracking is not relevant -- what's relevant is that no US president would ever dare use such language against Israel in the first place.
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this is what a "media blackout" looks like
How much more time did US televised news media spend on Khasoggi than on all US citizens murdered by Israel *combined* over the past 20 years?
Before Shireen, you have numerous cases of Us citizens murdered by Israel with nearly no coverage by US media. Shireen was internationally famous and such a clean coverup would have been impossible in her case.
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msndnc praising biden for calling saudi arabia a pariah might have gotten your argument across the finish line before his most recent trip
This makes the point entirely. The fact that SA was attacked by the US president with this language alone shows it's completely psychotic to claim that SA has more influence over the US than Israel does. Biden backtracking is not relevant -- what's relevant is that no US president would ever dare use such language against Israel in the first place.Except for that tiny detail about them completely preventing us from making good on that, having the ability to send Biden home with egg on his face, compelling him to write an Op Ed in WaPo defending going over there, given MBS a photo op for his media, and making him grovel, no influence at all!
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this is what a "media blackout" looks like
How much more time did US televised news media spend on Khasoggi than on all US citizens murdered by Israel *combined* over the past 20 years?
Before Shireen, you have numerous cases of Us citizens murdered by Israel with nearly no coverage by US media. Shireen was internationally famous and such a clean coverup would have been impossible in her case. -
Falsely accusing someone of engaging in logical fallacies is itself fallacious.
A "media blackout" does not need to be total to constitute a blackout. This deals with relative amounts of coverage. Would you agree or disagree that coverage of Khashoggi's murder drew at least 100-1000 times as much televised coverage in the United States as the murder of Shireen Abu Akleh? And that the amount of coverage compared to previously murdered US citizens (such as Rachel Cor/rie) would be astronomical as a ratio?
Now go back to saying anyone who criticizes Israel is an "anti-semite." That makes as much sense as saying all criticism of Saudi Arabia is Islamophobic.
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Except for that tiny detail about them completely preventing us from making good on that, having the ability to send Biden home with egg on his face, compelling him to write an Op Ed in WaPo defending going over there, given MBS a photo op for his media, and making him grovel, no influence at all!
And see, by this standard, North Korea had more influence than Israel over the US while Trump was president. You seem to have difficulty understanding the concept of quantified influence, or quantified anything. You think showing evidence of *any* influence by Saudi Arabia means they have *more* influence than Israel. You think showing that *any* media coverage of Shireen's murder means that this was *more* coverage than happened regarding Khashoggi's murder.
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https://gfycat.com/goodnaturedwarpedamericancrow
Falsely accusing someone of engaging in logical fallacies is itself fallacious.
A "media blackout" does not need to be total to constitute a blackout. This deals with relative amounts of coverage. Would you agree or disagree that coverage of Khashoggi's murder drew at least 100-1000 times as much televised coverage in the United States as the murder of Shireen Abu Akleh? And that the amount of coverage compared to previously murdered US citizens (such as Rachel Cor/rie) would be astronomical as a ratio?
Now go back to saying anyone who criticizes Israel is an "anti-semite." That makes as much sense as saying all criticism of Saudi Arabia is Islamophobic.It would need to be not a major story. And the government likely wouldn't be promoting it.
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It would need to be not a major story. And the government likely wouldn't be promoting it.
US citizens murdered by any government in the world is always a major story, except when the perpetrator is Israel. Then it only becomes a major story, several days later, if the victim was previously internationally famous.