The pattern of no-gooding in this thread is interesting. Those of us saying that Trump will get re-elected are not hoping for it, I think. Just that we wish the democratic party would do some substantive reflection on how they screwed up and how they can give hope.
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The Mueller investigation is complete and this is a simple fact that will never go away: not one single American was charged, indicted or convicted for conspiring with Russia to influence the 2016 election - not even a low-level volunteer. The number is zero.
So much BS from the start.
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Try unpacking the lies Trump’s aides told to hide various ties to Russia:
Trump pursued a ridiculously lucrative $300 million real estate deal even though the deal would use sanctioned banks, involve a former GRU officer as a broker, and require Putin’s personal involvement at least through July 2016.
The Russians chose to alert the campaign that they planned to dump Hillary emails, again packaging it with the promise of a meeting with Putin.
After the Russians had offered those emails and at a time when the family was pursuing that $300 million real estate deal, Don Jr took a meeting offering dirt on Hillary Clinton as “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” At the end (per the sworn testimony of four people at the meeting) he said his father would revisit Magnitsky sanctions relief if he won. Contrary to the claim made in a statement authored by Trump, there was some effort to follow up on Jr’s assurances after the election.
The campaign asked rat-f**ker Roger Stone to optimize the WikiLeaks releases and according to Jerome Corsi he had some success doing so.
In what Andrew Weissmann called a win-win (presumably meaning it could help Trump’s campaign or lead to a future business gig for him), Manafort provided Konstantin Kilimnik with polling data that got shared with Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs. At the same meeting, he discussed a “peace” plan for Ukraine that would amount to sanctions relief.
Trump undercut Obama’s response to the Russian hacks in December 2016, in part because he believed retaliation for the hacks devalued his victory. Either for that reason, to pay off Russia, and/or to pursue his preferred policy, Trump tried to mitigate any sanctions, an attempt that has (with the notable exception of those targeting Oleg Deripaska) been thwarted by Congress.We know all of these things — save the Stone optimization detail, which will be litigated at trial unless Trump pardons him first — to be true, either because Trump’s aides and others have already sworn they are true, and/or because we’ve seen documentary evidence proving it.
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Comparing the Russia-Trump conspiracy theory to birtherism is fair because both of these are "Manchurian candidate" narratives. The idea of a US presidential candidate being a secret Russian agent is in fact the original Manchurian candidate narrative, straight outta early Cold War paranoid fiction. That said, the irony involved in such a narrative coming back around to bite Trump, whose aborted 2012 presidential campaign was centrally premised on birtherism, is cute. Birtherism helped turn out some partisan crazies in the 2010 midterm election, but the narrative was largely accepted as probably disproved before the 2012 election. If any of the announced 2020 Democratic presidential candidates had somehow premised their candidacy on a single-issue anti-Russia campaign, they'd probably need to drop out of the race similarly as 2012 pre-candidate Trump running on a platform depicting Obama as a secret Muslim.
ae1d, you seem to be taking a belligerent Cold War hawk stance regarding foreign policy on Russia. The geopolitical framing of your post appears to imply that you support the present Neo-Nazi government in Ukraine (which is being armed by the Trump administration against Russia), and your main problem with Trump is that he is not sufficiently hawkish against Russia.
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