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Sociologist
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there is a job
Sure, honey.
^ Absolutely untrue. If the choice is between a math, physics, philosophy, history, or sociology PhD, sociology absolutely has the best academic job market of these
If you think otherwise you?re blatantly ignorant of the broader realities of academia. Something like 5% of all physics PhDs get any TT job at all. And if you think the soc market is worse than history, philosophy, or math?s, you?re a knownothing.
the % of PhDs who get TT jobs meani|ng|less number. The % in each discipline getting tt jobs among those trying to get TT jobs is the apt number. And physics and math PhD have fantastic job prospects outside academic compared to soc.
nice shifting the goalposts. the entire discussion has been academic job markets, but nice shifting the goalposts.

you do not know what shifting goal posts mean. the discussion was about a reading list for a math graduate going into sociology. then somebody without reason and without knowledge began talking about the academic job market. why should a discussion about future prospects for PhDs in different disciplines be limited to academic job market?

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Sociologist
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I’m convinced none of these “mAtH PhD gr8 non-ac pRoSpEcTs” have ever met a math PhD, or have any idea what constitutes research in mathematics. Neither theoretical physicists nor most mathematicians have “great prospects” outside academia.

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Sociologist
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Nah, you shifted the goalposts. Which is alright, for the very reasons you mentioned (alt-academic options should be discussed too), but you shifted goalposts nonetheless.

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Sociologist
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The other 85% get 200k contracts working in tech.
Imagine thinking the physics job market is better than sociology?s. About 15% of physics PhDs who get postdocs go in to land a TT job.

LOL no, that’s not even close to true. You seem to revel in your ignorance. Motivated reasoning to argue that “soc sux” seems like a waste of energy imo.

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Sociologist
8e58

ITT: a bunch of PhDs trying to convince themselves that they only chose the wrong field. Newsflash: getting a PhD for the money is utter i/diocy. You better love the research you’re doing and the field you’re in, or a PhD will not be worthwhile for you. Every field except business has way more new PhDs than open positions. And yet the unemployment rate for PhDs is lower than 3%.

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Sociologist
a7b1

I’m convinced none of these “mAtH PhD gr8 non-ac pRoSpEcTs” have ever met a math PhD, or have any idea what constitutes research in mathematics. Neither theoretical physicists nor most mathematicians have “great prospects” outside academia.

Nah, you shifted the goalposts. Which is alright, for the very reasons you mentioned (alt-academic options should be discussed too), but you shifted goalposts nonetheless.

I know both mathematicians or physicists inside and outside academia but that matters none for knowing that math and physics PhDs have better non-academic labor market is better than sociologists. and why do you zoom in on "theoretical physicists" all of a sudden. while theoretical physics is the one true science, that seems like shifting goal posts for this discussion :)

I have not shifted any goal posts. I am not the person you responded to. That person did actually not shift goal posts either because a post a few posts upthread already talked about non-academic job prospects for physicists.

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Sociologist
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^ weird strawman about theoretical physics and utter lack of substantive response to anything. just a useless and triggered post. though not as useless and triggered as this one ;)

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Sociologist
870b

Looks like a physics PhD is just as good as an MBA.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/633801/highest-paying-graduate-degrees-in-the-us/

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Sociologist
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Looks like a physics PhD is just as good as an MBA.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/633801/highest-paying-graduate-degrees-in-the-us/

cool non-academic data but you’re still wrong on the academic front. if your goal is to be a prof, you’re better off with a PhD in soc than in physics. if your goal is to make a lot of money, sure, get a physics PhD, but I don’t know why you’d waste your time with grad school if your goal is wealth.

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Sociologist
a7b1

^ weird strawman about theoretical physics and utter lack of substantive response to anything. just a useless and triggered post. though not as useless and triggered as this one ;)

I like it. First 2/3 of post unhinnged and show lack sense of humor. Last 1/3 has great sense of humor. That's how it's done.

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Sociologist
a7b1

Looks like a physics PhD is just as good as an MBA.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/633801/highest-paying-graduate-degrees-in-the-us/

Those data are about income when you get a job, not about chances of getting that job which is issue here (I think)

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Sociologist
870b

No one said anything about wealth. I just present some objective evidence that suggests a physics PhD has better job prospects than a sociology PhD.

Now either try to do the same with your claims, or stop spinning arguments around.

Looks like a physics PhD is just as good as an MBA.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/633801/highest-paying-graduate-degrees-in-the-us/
cool non-academic data but you�re still wrong on the academic front. if your goal is to be a prof, you�re better off with a PhD in soc than in physics. if your goal is to make a lot of money, sure, get a physics PhD, but I don�t know why you�d waste your time with grad school if your goal is wealth.

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Sociologist
a7b1

Looks like a physics PhD is just as good as an MBA.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/633801/highest-paying-graduate-degrees-in-the-us/
cool non-academic data but you�re still wrong on the academic front. if your goal is to be a prof, you�re better off with a PhD in soc than in physics. if your goal is to make a lot of money, sure, get a physics PhD, but I don�t know why you�d waste your time with grad school if your goal is wealth.

But who said the goal is to be a prof? (what data do you have for the claim that soc PhD is better than physics PhD if that is your goal anyway?). A lot of people in sciences do PhDs with no intention to be university faculty. They do it because they like to do research and would like option of research jobs in private sector. Btw, to want a decent income is not the same as having wealth as life goal.

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Sociologist
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There is nothing wrong with doing a sociology PhD. But it's laughable to believe your job opportunities are better than a Physics PhD.

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Sociologist
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If in doubt, avoid sociology.

There is nothing wrong with doing a sociology PhD.

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Sociologist
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But it's laughable to believe your job opportunities are better than a Physics PhD.

Nobody has for a moment claimed that the soc non-academic market is better than that of physics. The academic job market is, though. Anyway, this reeks of physics-envy, which makes me think you’re not a sociologist in the first place lol

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Sociologist
3ff1

No one said anything about wealth. I just present some objective evidence that suggests a physics PhD has better job prospects than a sociology PhD.
Now either try to do the same with your claims, or stop spinning arguments around.
Looks like a physics PhD is just as good as an MBA.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/633801/highest-paying-graduate-degrees-in-the-us/
cool non-academic data but you?re still wrong on the academic front. if your goal is to be a prof, you?re better off with a PhD in soc than in physics. if your goal is to make a lot of money, sure, get a physics PhD, but I don?t know why you?d waste your time with grad school if your goal is wealth.

this dude sounds majorly b/utt/hu/rt about being wrong about something. probably a nightmare of a colleague. you got daddy issues? I can help ;)

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Sociologist
870b

You haven't presented a single piece of evidence to support your claim and have nothing but personal attacks.

But it's laughable to believe your job opportunities are better than a Physics PhD.
Nobody has for a moment claimed that the soc non-academic market is better than that of physics. The academic job market is, though. Anyway, this reeks of physics-envy, which makes me think you�re not a sociologist in the first place lol

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Sociologist
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^ This winky-face mf is my new favorite sjmr meme

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Sociologist
706e

You haven't presented a single piece of evidence to support your claim and have nothing but personal attacks

Says the genius who led in this argument with “Sure, honey.” I’d stop engaging you seriously too.

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