falseDesmond was denied tenure at Harvard, for what it's worth.
Karen Kelsky vs. Kimberly Hoang
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This is silly. 10 articles and an award-winning book at a top university press is enough for tenure anywhere that tenures at associate.
No one has argued differently.
^ its good enough for mediocre beancounting departments but not ones that claim to care about quality. My hunch was that among R1s, higher the department rank, lower the emphasis on counting and higher the importance of quality?
Nonsense. Given the placement of her articles and all the awards she's won, which, like it or not (mostly not); for better and worse (mostly worse), signals that the discipline deems her work high quality (do you even soc?), she'd be tenured anywhere with that record.
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can someone please clarify how KKH is mean to her advisees?
She's "mean"? Grow up. It's grad school. They're not there to coddle you. Put on your big-boy pants and rise to the occasion.
If she's exploitive or unethical, fine, let's hear it. That can't be allowed. But mean? Please.I'd say she is actually unethical. She makes explicitly racist claims to Asian students in her class and mocks, and even shuns, students who do not belong to her small group. Much worse things have happened, to say the least.
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Her book on sex work in southeast Asia was unethical for being so distorting of the actual phenomenon, as well as neglecting to even throw in a single sentence about how global sex tourism is foundationally based on global poverty disparities which are the legacy of colonialism. Imposition of sex work on traditional societies was a major element of colonialism.
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This is Chcago advising 101.
can someone please clarify how KKH is mean to her advisees?
She's "mean"? Grow up. It's grad school. They're not there to coddle you. Put on your big-boy pants and rise to the occasion.
If she's exploitive or unethical, fine, let's hear it. That can't be allowed. But mean? Please.
I'd say she is actually unethical. She makes explicitly racist claims to Asian students in her class and mocks, and even shuns, students who do not belong to her small group. Much worse things have happened, to say the least. -
Her book on sex work in southeast Asia was unethical for being so distorting of the actual phenomenon, as well as neglecting to even throw in a single sentence about how global sex tourism is foundationally based on global poverty disparities which are the legacy of colonialism. Imposition of sex work on traditional societies was a major element of colonialism.
Have you read the book? Just checked the book and the entire chapter 2 is about the historical legacies of French and American colonialism in shaping sex work industry.
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Based on tone and sentence structure I am 99% positive I know who said this.
can someone please clarify how KKH is mean to her advisees?
She's "mean"? Grow up. It's grad school. They're not there to coddle you. Put on your big-boy pants and rise to the occasion.
If she's exploitive or unethical, fine, let's hear it. That can't be allowed. But mean? Please. -
I wonder if there's any animosity from KK having worked on a somewhat similar topic as KH. From her TPII book in Chapter 17:
"I was a pretty good grant writer in graduate school, and enjoyed full funding through my entire program, fieldwork, and writing. It eased my path in countless ways, and made graduate school a real pleasure. It also enabled me to indulge my curiosity in ways that directly served my intellectual growth. How? you ask. Well, my book started out as but a faint glimmer in my eye when I went down to Waikiki to surf each evening as a new graduate student at the University of Hawai’i, and I began to ponder the odd pickup scene among young Japanese female tourists and local guys there. If I hadn’t had the leisure to take up surfing my first year of graduate school, I would never have spotted this “hidden in plain sight” phenomenon that everybody on the beach was talking about and nobody understood. It started as an entertaining fieldwork project for my first methods class in the master’s program. That evolved into my master’s thesis. I kept getting funding for this project, as it developed into a wider examination of motivations for Japanese women’s internationalizing impulses. The funding kept coming, mostly because it struck everyone as a fascinating, counterintuitive topic.”
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Her book on sex work in southeast Asia was unethical for being so distorting of the actual phenomenon, as well as neglecting to even throw in a single sentence about how global sex tourism is foundationally based on global poverty disparities which are the legacy of colonialism. Imposition of sex work on traditional societies was a major element of colonialism.
The book makes very clear connections to colonialism and post colonialism. About ignoring / neglecting the imposition of sex work - you are right, but I think it has to do with her field sites, which were very particular (bars where sex workers had some autonomy and safety, compared to other places were sex work is closer to slavery)