people who rate grad school this highly concern me. it's like people who enjoy coming into the office on weekends.
10 at my vhrm
yep; these are the losers we are all competing with too
Graduate School Experience
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it's not a matter of authority, it's a matter of a huge transition in expectation and responsibility.
Not really. If you want to succeed you have to produce in grad school, so the expectations are there from the beginning. If anything, there is less immediate pressure because for most people getting a TT job is the big challenge and tenure will work out.
And 'responsibility'? Surely you don't mean teaching? Not much responsibility there. As long as you're professional and don't cause scandals, plenty of room to learn on the job.
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wtf you haven't been a faculty member a day of your life. i have served on 3-7 different concurrent committees in a single term.
grad school culminates because you do one dissertation in 5-10 yrs. being faculty is like doing multiple dissertations at the same time in 3-5 yrs. with no due respect, you have no earthly idea of which you speak.
If you want to succeed you have to produce in grad school, so the expectations are there from the beginning. If anything, there is less immediate pressure because for most people getting a TT job is the big challenge and tenure will work out.
And 'responsibility'? Surely you don't mean teaching? Not much responsibility there. As long as you're professional and don't cause scandals, plenty of room to learn on the job. -
wtf you haven't been a faculty member a day of your life. i have served on 3-7 different concurrent committees in a single term.
I'm associate at a pretty known R1, I've served on my share of committees and am in the midst of grad admissions duty right now. I'm well aware of all the differences between grad school and being a prof.
But I'm not sure how much they matter. Most people get more efficient as they go along. And everyone else goes through the same cycle, so in some respects it washes out. When you're in grad school and early AP you need to prove productivity but by the time you get tenure it's less about cranking things out and more about big ideas. Plus the people you're being evaluated against are at the same career stage and are all doing the same committee stuff as well.
But the initial point/argument was that other people were surprised that you could enjoy grad school. And my main point remains that the underlying activities of doing research and teaching are similar and if you find grad school overwhelming it's probably not going to get better as a prof. All this other stuff is just incidental, the core activities are the same.
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people who rate grad school this highly concern me. it's like people who enjoy coming into the office on weekends.
10 at my vhrmI do like coming in th office for weekends when I need to - not for a full day, I have a baby and a husband, but in the morning for a couple hours.
Nothing is perfect but I had a great, supportive experience - that was also difficult of course. That's a given, in terms of learning how to deal with criticism and also realizing that people are doing really great work, some of which is better than mine - and I can admit that. But do I think I could have gotten a better experience somewhere else? I'm sure I'd make do - grad school is what you make of it - but I'm extremely happy with the faculty and the department as a whole.
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10 - Penn State
1 - Penn State
Can't tell if trolling or not, but either way, yes.Not trolling. But people either love or hate it there. Students from the adcomm and search committee said they get flooded with Penn State undergrads and people who got their Ph.D.s there who want to come back.
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as I re-read my mini-essay above, I am struck by an observation-- I think we leave female faculty the burden of the task of tending to the grad students and program. This is an alarmingly replication of gender constructs. For example, my program, in the 8 years I was there, never had a male grad director and I had never heard of them having one since women faculty reached a critical mass.
I also find that all of the care-work about students is put on women. The women in my department spoke to me because they knew my file, they were in the meetings about grad student success, they had to approve my medical leave, they were on the grad program committees, etc.
Wow, this is really eye opening. The men don't know me nor speak to me because tending to any students beyond your own is "women's work" in our department. Wow.What department is this?
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