I can't find data on this but my hypothesis is that white latinos (a hard group to define, actually) are disproportionately represented in diversity hires. I am wondering how often diversity hires actually result in underrepresented and racially marginalized demographics, including African-Americans, Afro-Carib, and non-white latino hires.
does anyone have/know of data of how many diversity lines hire white latinos?
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well we know that white latinos are not marginalized as a group. they dont suffer from housing segregation, educational achievement gaps, wealth gaps, etc. And yet my hypothesis is that universities continue to overrepresent white latinos in their diversity hires-- even if this overrepresentation is only slightly disproportionate, its worth noting that "diversity" (a world I am coming to dislike) really isnt addressing inequality in hiring.
I don't know of any hard data, but "White Latinos" are about to go the way of the "Asian" (no longer "counting") owing to the sort of abuse you allude to.
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I don't know of any hard data, but "White Latinos" are about to go the way of the "Asian" (no longer "counting") owing to the sort of abuse you allude to.
No way, not in higher ed. Ethnicity is strictly a matter of self-ID in our business, and there are absolutely no incentives to change in the near future. Self-IDed Latinos and American Indians are going to be in demand for a long time to come, no matter how "white" they are.
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and we wonder why rachel dolezal had a job teaching black studies...
No way, not in higher ed. Ethnicity is strictly a matter of self-ID in our business, and there are absolutely no incentives to change in the near future. Self-IDed Latinos and American Indians are going to be in demand for a long time to come, no matter how "white" they are.
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and we wonder why XXX YYY had a job teaching black studies...
No way, not in higher ed. Ethnicity is strictly a matter of self-ID in our business, and there are absolutely no incentives to change in the near future. Self-IDed Latinos and American Indians are going to be in demand for a long time to come, no matter how "white" they are.
Sshhh! You can't say that name in here, or the mods will delete the thread.
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I don't know of any hard data, but "White Latinos" are about to go the way of the "Asian" (no longer "counting") owing to the sort of abuse you allude to.
No way, not in higher ed. Ethnicity is strictly a matter of self-ID in our business, and there are absolutely no incentives to change in the near future. Self-IDed Latinos and American Indians are going to be in demand for a long time to come, no matter how "white" they are.
Brah, you know that Asians once "counted," don't you. Now they don't. Same thing is going to happen to "white latinos" pretty soon. Schools are going to increasingly ask about this in Census fashion, "race" and "ethnicity," which is what gives you white Latinos. Some are already doing this to ward off the "fauxtinos" that universities love to hire as a way of boosting diversity numbers.
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Brah, you know that Asians once "counted," don't you. Now they don't. Same thing is going to happen to "white latinos" pretty soon. Schools are going to increasingly ask about this in Census fashion, "race" and "ethnicity," which is what gives you white Latinos. Some are already doing this to ward off the "fauxtinos" that universities love to hire as a way of boosting diversity numbers.
Evidence that any school anywhere is cracking down on white latinos?
Until there is market saturation of white latinos (like there is of Asians), schools that are short on diversity are going to be going after them. Even if they are viewed as less desirable than a brown latino.
And even then, schools already ask about race and ethnicity, but no applicant is required to fill out all the blanks, or any of them. It will be as easy to sell yourself as a brown latino as it is to sell yourself as an American Indian. You really think universities are going to move to skin color verification checks? Not in your lifetime.
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How exactly are white Latinos "fauxtinos"?
There are "Latinos" who have lived in what is now the U.S. for 400 years. Their culture is "mainstream" American culture from Texas to California. They are not particularly "disadvantaged" unless you consider having a last name of "Sanchez" a handicap. I think that is what 89f0 was getting at.
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it's not that their not latinos, it's that they don't suffer from any forms of inequality or marginalization that are designed to combat systemic racism in higher ed hiring.
You have drank the SJW Koolaid, my friend. Higher ed does not care about "inequality or marginalization" when it comes to hiring. We just want to be able to say that we have "enough" minority professors, in order to demonstrate our SJW bonafides.
And once we have "enough", then we'll go right back to being prestige wh*res.
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Brah, you know that Asians once "counted," don't you. Now they don't. Same thing is going to happen to "white latinos" pretty soon. Schools are going to increasingly ask about this in Census fashion, "race" and "ethnicity," which is what gives you white Latinos. Some are already doing this to ward off the "fauxtinos" that universities love to hire as a way of boosting diversity numbers.
Evidence that any school anywhere is cracking down on white latinos?
Until there is market saturation of white latinos (like there is of Asians), schools that are short on diversity are going to be going after them. Even if they are viewed as less desirable than a brown latino.
And even then, schools already ask about race and ethnicity, but no applicant is required to fill out all the blanks, or any of them. It will be as easy to sell yourself as a brown latino as it is to sell yourself as an American Indian. You really think universities are going to move to skin color verification checks? Not in your lifetime.but it doesnt have to be a skin color check. much like university undergrad admissions, you can begin to consider actual biographical data (did you attend a minority serving institution? have you previously received URM scholarships? Are you active in URM professional orgs, etc?) and actually do something besides relying on self-ID'd racial categories.
Didn't Andrea whatshername just get called out for being a fake native this whole time?
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there are also white aristocratic central and south americans. there are white cubans (marco rubio, ted cruz). these people are literally the racial hegemony in their respective homelands but benefit from programs designed to correct racial marginalization in the US.
How exactly are white Latinos "fauxtinos"?
There are "Latinos" who have lived in what is now the U.S. for 400 years. Their culture is "mainstream" American culture from Texas to California. They are not particularly "disadvantaged" unless you consider having a last name of "Sanchez" a handicap. I think that is what 89f0 was getting at.