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Except for the many hurdles that IRB will make you go through so you can do research again, like post approval monitoring, extra training, and more critical review when you apply for approval or exemption again. You won't get fired, I can see that obv, but the admin hurdles would be annoying!
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As an IRB officer.... IRB violation is no big deal. It's just paperwork. Most - though by no means all - of my colleagues know how to not harm respondents. The complicated situations, such as what to do with blood samples, or telling a psych person they can't ask aggressively about past rape experiences (yes, it happened), are very, very rare.
However, if skipping IRB is coupled with fabricating data... that's a whole other game.
I'm in the "wait till they are vulnerable" camp. You have no idea how the whole thing will play out now. You give them time to defend themselves, reframe the situation, work the angle to jump into another job, etc etc etc. Or worse, depending on your dean. But when they're up for tenure, you literally have a formal pathway to lay it all out, as anonymously as your heart wishes. All the people shouting "do the right thing right now" may or may not understand how departmental politics work. Nothing better than a good stab in the back, when deserved.
" IRB violation is no big deal."
Wow.
It?s not a big deal. Subjecting human subjects to risk or harm is a big deal. Being bad at IRB paperwork signifies nothing at all.
As an IRB officer.... IRB violation is no big deal. It's just paperwork. Most - though by no means all - of my colleagues know how to not harm respondents. The complicated situations, such as what to do with blood samples, or telling a psych person they can't ask aggressively about past rape experiences (yes, it happened), are very, very rare.
However, if skipping IRB is coupled with fabricating data... that's a whole other game.
I'm in the "wait till they a